TETSUArcher Pull Up vs Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck
The Archer Pull Up and the Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck both train the lats as their primary muscle. The Archer Pull Up is bodyweight-based (a bar, rings or a station) while the Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck uses a cable. Here is how they compare and when to pick each.
Side-by-side comparison
| Archer Pull Up | Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck | |
|---|---|---|
| Primary muscle | lats | lats |
| Body part | back | back |
| Supporting muscles | biceps and forearms | biceps, rhomboids and rear deltoids |
| Equipment | bodyweight | cable |
| Steps in our guide | 6 | 6 |
How each one starts
Archer Pull Up — first steps
- Start by hanging from a pull-up bar with an overhand grip, slightly wider than shoulder-width apart.
- Engage your core and pull your shoulder blades down and back.
Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck — first steps
- Adjust the cable machine so that the pulldown bar is at a height above your head.
- Sit down on the seat and grab the pulldown bar with a wide overhand grip.
Full step-by-step guides are linked below.
Which should you choose?
The Archer Pull Up needs only a sturdy bar, rings or a station and scales through leverage, tempo and reps. The Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck keeps constant tension on the muscle through the whole range of motion. If your gym has both options, neither is a wrong choice: pick the one that feels strongest through a full range, and swap after 6 to 8 weeks to keep the lats adapting.
Full form guides
Common questions
Is the Archer Pull Up better than the Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck?
Neither is universally better — both train the lats as the primary mover. The Archer Pull Up needs only a sturdy bar, rings or a station and scales through leverage, tempo and reps, while the Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck keeps constant tension on the muscle through the whole range of motion. Choose based on your equipment and which movement you can progress consistently.
Can I do both the Archer Pull Up and the Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck in the same program?
Yes, but usually not in the same session — they overlap heavily on the lats. A common setup is one as your main movement and the other on a second training day, or alternating them block by block.
Do the Archer Pull Up and the Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck work the same muscles?
The primary muscle is the same: the lats. Supporting muscles differ slightly — biceps and forearms for the Archer Pull Up versus biceps, rhomboids and rear deltoids for the Cable Wide Grip Rear Pulldown Behind Neck.
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